Mix Tape Interview With Jim Sturgess & Rory Walton-Smith
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May 19, 2025
Ahead of its premiere at SXSW, Film Inquiry spoke with stars Jim Sturgess and Rory Walton-Smith for Mix Tape! Film Inquiry: http://www.filminquiry.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/filminquiry Facebook: http://facebook.com/filminquiry Subscribe: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCZfz4DP48M8uZxO46Go30lg
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hi
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I'm how are you both doing we're doing
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good doing good Rory I'm good very very
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good thank you all right awesome um so
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congratulations on the show I'm really
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enjoying uh what I've seen so far I look
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forward to to finishing um so this this
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must be exciting it's interesting to
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interview two people playing the same
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character in different times in their
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lives I think that's the first for me um
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so can you tell us a little bit about
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what the kind of process was as far as
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were you spending a lot of time together
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were you kind of creating the character
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together or Rory were you kind of
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following Jim around and trying to mimic
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him you know I'm just curious about the
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process yeah he was like he was like my
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better looking taller Shadow no don't be
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silly don't be silly I um yeah I didn't
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get to spend too much time with with Jim
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um unfortunately I did get to to watch
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him literally a day before I started
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filming um and that was very important
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but I was just saying before we kind
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of the way we were we were playing Dan
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was kind of similar anyway so I I didn't
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feel like I really needed to kind of
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stalk him and kind of follow him around
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and it would have been nice obviously
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but um I feel like we were we were
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already kind of there with it um so yeah
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that that helped a lot really for me
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yeah it's one of those things like that
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Rory wasn't we were already filming I
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was was over in Australia shooting the
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Australian bits um when Rory got cast as
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as
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Daniel you know and Lucy the director
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was was kind enough and generous enough
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to bring me in on the sort of casting
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process and and say you know who do you
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think feels like your version of Daniel
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you know who do you feel connected to
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when you watch these audition tapes and
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there great tapes and so many great
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pairings of different actors and we both
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youan we were both just like Rory Rory
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100% Rory I just loved what he was doing
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with Daniel and I I felt an instant
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kinship with with my version and his
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version um there was a sort of
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gentleness and this sort of kindness
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that maybe wasn't there in some of the
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other
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performances uh and yeah I just sort of
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thought that H it was a no-brainer for
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me it was you know it was just it was go
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Rory all the way appreciate that love it
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it's gonna be and it was great that me
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and Lucy had had because there were like
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I said there was some really other great
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you know obviously there's so many
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talented great people out there but we
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both you know even with um with Florence
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as a young Allison it was just seeing
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those two together it just felt just
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felt really exciting you know so J had
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you already filmed all of your scenes
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because I'm just curious if that shape
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tell you your performance at all once
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Rory was casted no we just done a few we
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just started in Australia so we were
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doing the kind of Australian bits of
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that um that's predominantly sort of
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Theresa's story and her world and her
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sort of landscape and then I sort of pop
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into that at one particular time so I
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wasn't there for a huge amount of time
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enough to get jetlagged and then fly
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back again and be even more jet lag we
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started on the other end um but yeah
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yeah we we were sort of in it and then I
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was very aware of sort of Rory and that
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he was getting cast and you know it was
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it was much more about just feeling when
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I saw the performances whether that felt
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right because you know when you when you
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watch the show it isn't just here's the
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young story then we all grow up and
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here's the old story The Young and the
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old story are literally bouncing back
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and forth and intertwining all the way
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through the show so to cut from one face
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to another that had to sort of feel
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believable that these were the same they
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were coming from the same you know Soul
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you know essentially so yeah felt felt
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important to get it right you know yeah
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that's nicely put um did you both read
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the book before getting started was that
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a big part of your prep yeah I I read
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the book I it was weird for me because I
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had already got an idea of how I wanted
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to play down and then I read started
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reading the book and everything I wanted
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to do it wasn't quite lining up so then
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I started stressing myself out thinking
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do I keep reading this and kind of just
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figure out how I'm going to balance it
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or do I just go with how I I wanted to
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do it anyway and I did end up reading
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the the rest of the book and I feel like
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I definitely took stuff from the book
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that I didn't think I was going to take
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and um it was just a very good insight
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into that whole world because obviously
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you know there's only so much you can
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get into the show um so so that
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definitely really helped me but I was a
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bit scared that uh that I was thinking
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about it the wrong way for a bit how
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about you Jim yeah the same you I always
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sort of make sure I just focus on the on
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the script you know because that's what
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we're making you know that's the story
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that we're telling and uh yeah focus on
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that but always if there's a book
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attached you know always read it and
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excited to read it mainly to sort of
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find little clues or little nuggets that
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you might not have thought about or
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little things that might inform you
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somehow that didn't that isn't you know
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because a book can always go deeper than
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a than a screenplay you can so yeah I
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sort of felt comfortable with what was
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going on in the script and then looked
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into the book to sort of dive a bit
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deeper I think yeah yeah so something I
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love obviously about this story is the
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element of a mixtape I think you know
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music is obviously a huge part of the
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show I just think it's a huge part of
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all of our Lives it's kind of a romantic
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Rel you know language in itself um just
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curious have you ever made anyone a
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mixtape or has anyone ever made you one
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I have
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definitely I'm a bit older than Rory
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you're doing sptify
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playlist I'm it is interesting the
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difference between a playlist and a
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mixtape you know because essentially
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they are the same thing there are a
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collection of songs that mean something
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to you that you share with somebody else
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but there is and anyone that sort of was
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around in the 80s and the 90s there was
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this extra layer of sort of you know you
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had to put in quite a lot of work to
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sort of make the tape and you know just
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the pure nature of it being a physical
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thing that you would have to give to
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somebody do you know what I mean as a
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present as a gift you couldn't just sort
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of send it over on an email or whatever
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you know it's it was it was a real thing
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and yeah I was sort of Obsessed in it I
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would make loads and loads of mixtapes
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and draw kind of covers for them and
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write all the track listings down and
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definitely used it as a sort of romantic
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uh romantic tool shall we say at times
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um yeah so I I did definitely it was a
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big part growing up you know yeah yeah
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the old cassette tape was especially was
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just so meaningful um so have you ever
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made a a Spotify playlist
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R I actually haven't no I'm yeah I know
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I need to I think I think we need to
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just bring it back we just need to bring
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mixtapes back that is something we need
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to do because sending someone a link or
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sending someone one a a Spotify play is
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definitely not the same I remember
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filming one of the scenes where I was
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actually having to kind of put together
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a mixtape it was so embarrassing I
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couldn't do it to save my life I was
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trying to figure out how to go forward
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go back and someone actually had to sit
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there and talk me through it um I was
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just like oh God I'm so young I should
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know how to do this um but we need just
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need to bring him back because that that
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it's a lot to do that and especially if
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you're designing covers and all that
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that's very romantic do do people do
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that though in your age group do people
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send each other I I haven't heard any of
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my friends doing that really so you
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don't share music in that way of like
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these are the songs that mean something
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to you yeah but not like you know a
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mixtape we've just sent Spotify playlist
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and name it you know but you would do
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that though you would put a load of
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songs together and send it to that you
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had a crush yeah that's not it works it
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works it does it
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does um that's a funny conversation
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because it really does show the
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difference in in time um and how you
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know things evolve and change but but
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maybe we can bring it back with the show
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because I think it really um the the
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sweetness of it does come through and I
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think I think our relationship to music
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in general can really be um very
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indicative of like what part of our
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lives that we're in and so I'm just
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wondering um Rory since you you know
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were interested not never made a mixtape
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before did you find any new music
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through this show that really spoke to
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you yeah I I I I created a playlist with
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literally like 80 songs and I I would
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make it yeah exactly I I would make it a
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mission to get through as many as I
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could a day and I'm awful at names uh
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but I do it was yeah it was it was
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interesting kind of discovering this
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whole world that I'd
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never I kind of knew it was there but I
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hadn't really dug into it and I'd like
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just go about my day I couldn't go
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anywhere it was like Dan I couldn't go
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anywhere without my headphones in
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and making sure I educated myself on on
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some of the the Tunes back then and um
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there's just so many that that have
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stayed with me um so it was such an
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amazing experience um and I feel like
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I'm when someone asks me now about the
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kind of edgy or Indie 80 stuff I can be
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like yeah I've uh I've done my research
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so I I made Rory a mixtape I made him a
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mixtape and I sent it to the wrong Rory
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the music supervisor of the entire show
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who's like the Oracle of knowledge when
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it comes to music I sent it to him I
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sent I got the wrong email address and I
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put a lot of work into it I didn't make
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a front cover and all that but I did put
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a lot of work into it and um can you
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forward that to me Jim I I'll try and
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find it for you man I will but I was so
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heartbroken that Rory didn't get it and
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I didn't know until after we'd finished
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because I sent it off onto this email
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and i' sent it to the music supervisor
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going oh you should listen to this band
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this will be
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you know explaining to a man who knows
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probably more about music than I do
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about um you know various bands of the
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80s and 90s great yeah I'm sure he was
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he thought that was yeah thanks Jim yeah
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appreciate that yeah yeah good job gim
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yeah um lastly I guess um Jim so you
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obviously you're a m musician and you've
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worked in a lot of film and uh that
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intersects music um was that a big part
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of what kind of made you interested in
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this story or was there anything in
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particular about the script that caught
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your
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eye yeah it was a bit of both it was the
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music definitely sort of was a sort of
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the initial kind of intrigue but I I was
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actually quite wary of the music and
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wary of doing a show about mixed tapes
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of music I think being involved in music
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you know I was like what if the music
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doesn't match my idea of what is
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interesting about music you know it
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could actually be quite a detrimental
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thing um if it's not sort of done right
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but I was really sort of Taken and drawn
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by actually the relationships all
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different all three relationships you
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know the Young Daniel and Allison and
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the The Nostalgia of young love and but
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I for me because I was playing the older
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Daniel I was really kind of connected
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and interested to
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investigate the the relationship that he
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was in when you find him in the show
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which is sort of complicated and
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and maybe has sort of run its course but
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you know two people that were once sort
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of in love and once sort of connected
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now feel quite disconnected were they
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ever really in love did they just sort
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of go through the paces and raise a
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family all those sort of questions were
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I thought it was really really well
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written it was as much as it's a
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romantic show it's also quite tragic and
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quite real and quite
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painful um and that definitely when it
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comes to making a romantic film that
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that feels really important to me that
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it feels real you know that it's not
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some heightened kind of lovey love
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affair you know thing it's that these
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are real people in a real situation
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struggling with life and and uh yeah
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that definitely was the the initial draw
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on on on my side I
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think okay well um I think I'm out of
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time so thank you very much for talking
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to me uh congrats again and I hope you
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guys have a wonderful day or night where
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you are thank you thanks bye
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